AK 47, AR 15 or Mosin Nagant…

Stolen from Neil over at Hunters Glen! Enjoy! πŸ™‚

Stuff you know if you have an AK-47, or an AR-15, or a Mosin Nagant:
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AK: It works though you have never cleaned it. Ever.
AR: You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon
infused oil for cleaning.
Mosin: It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.
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AK: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn only from inside the
AR: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
Mosin: You can hit the farm from two counties over.
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AK: Cheap mags are fun to buy.
AR: Cheap mags melt.
Mosin: What’s a mag?
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AK: Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
AR: You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the
Mosin: What’s a safety?
____________ _________ ________
AK: Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
AR: Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system.
Mosin: Your rifle has dog collars.
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AK: Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.
AR: Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife.
Mosin: Your bayonet is longer than your leg.
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AK: You can put a .30″ hole through 12″ of oak, if you can hit it.
AR: You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30
Mosin: You can knock down everyone else’s target with the shock wave
of your bullet going downrange.
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AK: When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
AR: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
Mosin: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike,
boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.
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AK: Recoil is manageable, even fun.
AR: What’s recoil?
Mosin: Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by the
previous shot.
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AK: Your sight adjustment goes to “10”, and you’ve never bothered
moving it.
AR: Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of
Mosin: Your sight adjustment goes to 2 miles and you’ve actually
tried it.
____________ _________ _______
AK: Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation’s most illiterate
conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
AR: Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit
nations’ most illiterate conscripts.
Mosin: Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time.
____________ _________ _________
AK: Your rifle won some revolutions.
AR: Your rifle won the Cold War.
Mosin: Your rifle won a pole vault event.
____________ _________ _______
AK: You paid $350.
AR: You paid $900.
Mosin: You paid $59.95
____________ _________ _______
AK: You buy cheap ammo by the case.
AR: You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one.
Mosin: You dig your ammo out of a farmer’s field in Ukraine and it
works just fine.
____________ _________ _____
AK: You can intimidate your foe with the bayonet mounted.
AR: Your foes laugh when you mount your bayonet.
Mosin: You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river
without leaving the comfort of your foxhole.
____________ _________ ________
AK: Service life, 50 years.
AR: Service life, 40 years.
Mosin: Service life, 100 years, and counting.
____________ _________ ________
AK: It’s easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge
AR: You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins
and a new upper.
Mosin: You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his
friends by suggesting there is anything but 7.62x54r.
____________ _________ _______
AK: You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
AR: You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith,
it’s under warranty!
Mosin: If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one.
____________ _________ _____
AK: You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to
burst into flames.
AR: You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot
Mosin: You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds
without the aid of a 2×4.
____________ _________ __
AK: After a long day the range you relax by watching “Red Dawn”.
AR: After a long day at the range you relax by watching “Blackhawk
Mosin: After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the
chiropractor, then watching “Enemy at the Gates“.
____________ _________ ___
AK: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot
of Vodka.
AR: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hotdogs and
apple pie.
Mosin: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for
____________ _________ _______
AK: You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice
stock set.
AR: Your rifle’s accessories are eight times more valuable than your
Mosin: Your rifle’s accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid,
but it’s buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.
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AK: Your rifle’s finish is varnish and paint.
AR: Your rifle’s finish is Teflon and high tech polymers.
Mosin: Your rifle’s finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and a
paste made from Olga’s ground up toenail clippings.
____________ _________ _______
AK: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail
AR: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene
Mosin: Cameras had not even been invented to photograph the young
Sergei Mosin.
____________ _________ ________
AK: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your
rifle over your head and shout “Wolverines! ”
AR: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your
house, slicing the pie from room to room.
Mosin: Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a
fighting trench in the the yard to sleep in.

38 Responses to “AK 47, AR 15 or Mosin Nagant…”

  1. nick47 Says:

    So, would you suggest the Mossin? I like the looks of it and the fact that it has been around for 100+ years makes me think there is something good about it. Would you suggest I get one?

  2. patricksperry Says:

    I prefer the AK’s myself.

  3. kyle Says:

    i have a mosin and its an awsome rifle verry accurate, verry loud, verry cheap ammo, verry cheap rifle. you could shoot a flea off a dogs back at 1,000 yards

  4. patricksperry Says:

    Must be one hell of a big flea is all I can say. Look, Mosin’s are reliable and inexpensive. But to say that they are, or will ever be competitive with, say Mauser Rifles? Or Remington, or Boss, H&K etc… Is pure bovine feces.

    Enter the IM Galil rifles… http://world.guns.ru/assault/as23-e.htm

    Get a clue…

  5. ham man Says:

    there weren’t any remingtons, mausers, boss or h&k rifles at the world sniper tournament in finland this past year. mostly it was accuracy international, or sako in .338 lapua or .300 win mag. with one notable exception a mosin nagant with custom work chambered in .300 win mag.
    mosins are very good rifles. buy a fin capture, they corrected the errors of rapid production by the ruskies. and yes they are really THAT good. in fact mikhail kalashnikov has a mosin as his personal hunting rifle. funny the inventor of the AK prefers a mosin to hunt with.

  6. patricksperry Says:

    I will have to check them out. The Fin models at least. In the mean time, I will stick with my “A” bolt, in 300. Thanks for the tip Ham Man! πŸ™‚

  7. JOHN Says:

    Get the Mosin Nagant they are cheap and so much fun.

  8. Pyrat Says:

    the Nagant would be great for surviving Z-day (the zombie apocalypse) cause once you run out of ammo you still have a mace or spear, depending on whether you found the bayonet with the rifle in the basement of that burned out shop in Minsk

  9. Matte Says:

    I”m getting a good used mogin (hahaaha they are all used) and building a skeleton stock if the barrel is good. Meat in the pot, and I want to see about those 400yd hog shots

  10. patricksperry Says:

    You will have to post some pics of the stock, and the results of those 400 yard shots!

  11. MadMardegun87 Says:

    I had the pleasure of owning all 3 one time and hands down the Mosin Nagant beats em all in my opinion, while AK’s are extremely reliable they are clunky an i find them uncomfortable to fire. The AR-15 or M-16 is state of the art and highly accurate but requires too much cleaning to operate properly and ammo/parts/accessories are very expensive. Also the AK’s and AR15’s calibers are nothing in comparison to the power of the Nagants 7.62×54, with the AK’s 7.62×39 and the AR-15’s .223 both weapons are commonly known for wounding but not killing, especially through material. With 7.62×54 catridge of the Mosin you can easily shoot clean through a stack of sand bags, nail your target on the other side and still kill the guy standing behind him, thats if you can lift the weapon to fire it as most average in at 9 1/2lbs. So if your looking for solid battle rifle that you can drag behind a pickup truck through sand/mud/rocks/dirt, throw off a 10 story buidling, burn with diesle, spear a grizzly bear, run over with a frieght train and still drop a wooley mammoth at 1000yrds with and only cost yourself $75. i would suggest the Mosin Nagant M91/30 or M44.

  12. patricksperry Says:

    Thanks for the comments MadMardfegun87

  13. patricksperry Says:

    WOW! I joined the local gun club yesterday and there was a guy there with a Sako re-worked Mosin. That rifle was awesome! one group was covered by a dime at 300 yards! It was topped with Zeiss glass.

  14. MadMardegun87 Says:

    I’ve put 5 rounds on a target at 100 yards that was covered by a 25cent quarter with my mosin, havent tried anything past 150 yet, the terrain here in Louisiana simply wont allow anything further. But its always nice to know the possibilities.

  15. patricksperry Says:

    Cool! Keep your eye on the blog, I will be posting about three people that at the range with new rifles today. Some surprising results were had to say the least.

  16. MadMardegun87 Says:

    Anyone know how to get a hold of 7.62 specialty ammo? im lookin for some Extreme Shock Tungeston Steel Powder rounds but havent found any in 7.62x54mm

  17. patricksperry Says:

    Never heard of them myself. Are those fragmentation rounds?

  18. Kain Says:

    A lot of Germans actually seized Mosin’s due to their ability to shoot better. I compete with a complete stock mosin nagant 91/30 from 1943 and I outshoot mausers, M1’s and most of the other guys. With any milsurp rifle it’s about getting one that came out real well. Most gun owners like patrick here will stand by just what they know and are scared of change.

  19. Patrick Sperry Says:

    Really Kain? Did you even bother to actually read my comments? I readily admit that I am not all that familiar with the Mosin rifles, and that one in particular that I did see being shot was exceptionally accurate by anyone’s standards.

    MadMard a friend of mine said that he thought that you probably would have to roll your own ammunition. He also said that he thought that you could get the bullets at Midway. Good luck!

  20. dread Says:

    i have owned and shot many mosins and all the different models and have found that they are all deadly accurate but it all comes down to the hard trigger pull. many newbees to the mosin end up moving there body more than they realize before the shot is fired and cant figure out why they are 6 inches off target and blame it on the rifle. i would not hesitate to take any of the 3 in my cabinet to war with me. sqeeze slow,dont pull and it will be on target every time. just check out youtube to see some long range nagant shooting.

  21. Patrick Sperry Says:

    Thanks for the info dread.

  22. Qiset Says:

    I bought a M44 Polish made Mosin-Nagant several years ago from my brother. (He runs a gun shop.) I believe it was in the early 80’s. It was
    was supposed to be brand new. It at least looked brand new. I bought it because it was made in 1953, the year I was born. The other day, I purchased a coach gun from a small shop and the owner showed me a Dragunov in 7.62X54R. I was intrigued. It reminded me that deep in my gun safe was that old Mosin-Nagant. Today, I took that gun to the local range and fired it for the first time. It was at a hundred yards. With just the standard iron sights the gun really impressed me at how well shot. The only complaint would be the creep in the trigger. I still want to get a scope for it if I can find one that fits. I also have an AK and I’m building my first AR. The AK is great for close. I’ll get back after I finish with the AR.

  23. Patrick Sperry Says:

    Cool, keep us up to date on your project.

  24. Big John Says:

    I own several guns, one of which is the M44 carbine (1947 Soviet manufacture). If given the option of only one gun, that would be the one. It is hands down, the most accurate gun I own.

  25. Patrick Sperry Says:

    All that I have ever heard about them is that they are great!

  26. David Says:

    I own an M44 and have had more fun with that gun than any other. There is just great satisfaction seeing your target literally explode. And yes, it is accurate!

  27. Patrick Sperry Says:

    Like Gunny on the History channel and his exploding watermelons David? LOL!

  28. David Says:

    Didn’t see that one, but I can imagine. I usually go up into the mountains and shoot at dead logs. Pieces of wood usually go ten to twenty feet high. But with nearly 3000 foot pounds, I’d kind of expect something like that.

  29. Patrick Sperry Says:

    The thing that has impressed me, is that you can get one of the cheapo models, dress it up with polishing compound. The action, barrel, and so on, and these things are real shooters!

    I still haven’t seen a Sako rework, but I have to think that they are just awesome!

  30. Dale Says:

    Does anyone have a suggestion where I may pick up a rifle of some sort that would be economical, dependable and ammo available?

  31. David Says:

    Get an M44 or Mosin 91/30. Ammo can be found for less than $.20/round at http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=465896
    You can find the rifles at pawn shops fairly regularly, check prices though, they will try to sell them for more than they are worth.

  32. Patrick Sperry Says:

    I didn’t see any at all down at Sports Lure Dale. (Dale is a personal friend folks.) Best bet may be Sportsman’s Warehouse up in Casper but I haven’t been there yet. Big “R” in Sheridan didn’t have any when we went there last weekend, although they did have a really good sale on Ruger 10/22’s.

    In Denver, the 91/30 series go for around a hundred. Not sure about Wyoming though Dale. TYVM for the info David! πŸ˜€

  33. Al Schrader Says:

    Dale- Sounds like the Mosin is what you are looking for. I’m an arms manufacturer & can tell you it’s probably best rifle ever invented.
    It’s inexpensive, made with more steel than it needs, & simple.
    The extra steel is what makes it so accurate. Thin barrels & chambers will flex if you set the rifle against anything. In time it will bend or take a “set” and after that, forget about accuracy. The extra steel also adds mass & reduces recoil. I’ve placed rounds in a 5 inch circle at half a football field using only the iron sights & the M91/30 version. It has a maximum range of 2,000 meters or 1.25 miles> Is great way to put meat on your table. All

  34. Patrick Sperry Says:

    Great info Al, tyvm! πŸ™‚

  35. glenn Says:

    my eldest son and I just bought a surplus mosin nagant from an internet dealer (j & g sales) in april. can’t beat the price ($89.95), for what we got. I was suprised at the excellent condition of it. I expected a bit more wear and tear, for its age (1933 tula 1891/30) and low price. the rifle is loads of fun to shoot, and seems real accurate. I’ve only shot at an indoor range at 25 yards. extremely rugged and simple to clean and operate. cycling that bolt, though, takes a bit of muscle! my son and I enjoy the looks we get from pistol shooters at the range, when they hear the boom of that old mosin! plan on trying our first deer hunt this fall with it, and shooting crows this summer. would probably leave only crow feathers, though!

  36. Teaok Says:

    I just need to find a way to rid my mosin of the cosmoline, any suggestions?

    • Patrick Sperry Says:

      First field strip the rifle. Then get a gallon or so of automotive cleaning solvent and a bristle brush. Soak the various parts in the solvent. A metal pan works well for the smaller parts but you will have to brush it onto the barrel. About an hour will usually do the trick. Then brush off the softened cosmoline. Repeat until it is basically clean. Then hit it with some Gun Scrubber or Brake Kleen for the really tough stuff. Finally, spray everything down with Rem Oil and let the parts sit for about three days, then wipe it down and reassemble the rifle. That should work.

  37. Robert McMillin Says:

    I own an AR-15, 3 AKs, 2 SKSs, and just one Nagant. I will definitely go buy two more Nagants today, as Big 5 has them for $79.99. I’m impressed with the weapon, compared to the others.

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