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CSU: Above the law…

February 27, 2010
Colorado State University Approves Proposal Outlawing Concealed Carry on Campus
Friday, February 26, 2010
As we have reported, the Colorado State University (CSU) System Board of Governors drafted a proposal that would prohibit firearms on all CSU campuses with exemptions for law enforcement, military and the Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC).

On Tuesday, February 23, the Board of Governors approved the proposal.  The final approved weapons policy can be found at

The Board of Governors drafted the policy knowing that it would violate the Colorado state firearm preemption law and the Colorado Uniform Shall-Issue Concealed Carry Law.  Current state law strictly regulates the carry or transport of firearms on schools, colleges and universities.

Their vote against concealed carry and self-defense is unfortunate and disappointing.  Please contact President Tony Frank TODAY by phone at 970-491-6211 or email and respectfully voice your disapproval with the Board of Governor’s actions.


CSU Regents Reject Logic, Reason, and State Law

December 12, 2009

As noted in an earlier post the Regents at Colorado State University were in the depths of deciding whether or not to turn the campuses into Free Fire Zones. Well, they decided that a bloody mess when, not if, the next moral degenerate decides to get their fifteen minutes of fame at the expense of the student body. Not to mention their collective decision is in direct violation of state law.

Senator Greg Brophy sent them a well-reasoned letter that, as a rather successful CSU graduate you would think that they would have listened too, as well as taken into account. However, the forces of political correctness, and anti liberty and logic held sway at the end of the day. Thereby setting the stage for yet another slaughter in an institution of learning in Colorado. I’m guessing that two were not enough for these brainy types to figure things out on their own.

In any case, Senator Brophy was kind enough to allow me to reprint some of the feed back that he has received about all this. Please note the absolute lack of critical thinking, as well as a pronounced lack of logical thought that was expressed in the emails that he responded too. Then, I will follow-up with a few additional links that have related story’s.

Whoops, I need to update the update, as
the punch line is missing from the last of my email
exchange with liberal

And my favorite exchange with Richard
Leather, also from Denver:

How many crimes or violent incidents in Colorado,
over say the past 10 years, have been interdicted by
a private gun owner?

On a national basis:

•The U.S.
has an estimated 283 million guns in civilian hands
or approximately 97 guns for every 100 people (Karp).

•Each year, about 4.5 million new firearms, including
approximately 2 million handguns, are sold in the
United States
(Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF).

•An estimated 2 million secondhand firearms are sold
each year as
well (ATF).

If there are measurable interventions by private gun
owners, including
on campus, then weapons on a campus can be argued for
with at least minimal justification.

But I do not see evidence that private citizens play
any measurable
role in prevention of crime or violence.
What am I missing?

I sent back this:

You really shouldn’t bring a knife to a gun fight, so
to speak.

Two quick examples:

Shooting justified/ Woman who wounded intruder
within her rights,

0 Comments | Gazette, The (Colorado Springs),
Nov 23, 2000 | by Jeremy Meyer

A 72-year-old woman who shot a man allegedly breaking
into her Knob
Hill home Saturday won’t be charged, the 4th District
Attorney’s Office said

Aurora woman fires at intruder who cops think
was serial rapist

By Jim Kirksey

Denver Post Staff Writer 9/23/20
A man police believe may be a serial rapist
preying on women in Aurora
and Denver narrowly
escaped injury when a would-be victim fired a shot
at him as he stood in her
bedroom doorway, said Sgt. Rudy Herrera of the
Aurora Police Department.

The liberal dummy sent this back:

Ah, I see. Once in 2000. Then again in 2005.

QED. Now
really, Brophy. Not even in the old sod would that wash.

The issue, moreover, is not
guns stashed at home, wielded in face of invasive

It’s the rationality of “gunning after” CSU trustees
the problem of youngsters carrying concealed weapons.
Defending one’s
self all too readily translates to defending from
insult. That is a
tradition out here that deserves burial.

Pandering to a constituent element at the expense of
good governance is
no proper part of conservatism.

So I sent him back this:

I really feel like I need to pat you on
the head and say nice try. Maybe you
forgot about the New
Life Church
attempted mass murder in December of 2007.
Jeanne Assam had a concealed carry permit and was at
church on that
fateful Sunday, thank God. This is from
the Rocky:

Firing as he moved

approached a Toyota
minivan. David and Marie Works were climbing in with
their daughters –
18-year-old twins Laurie and Stephanie, and Rachel,
16, and Grace, 11.

walked slowly, arcing around the van, firing as he moved.

“Get down! Get down!” David Works yelled.

bullets shattered windows on the van and cut down
Stephanie, Rachel and their

Stephanie Works died in the minivan. Paramedics rushed
Rachel Works to the hospital, performing
cardiopulmonary resuscitation all the
way – and doctors fought to save her but could not.
David Works, seriously
injured, also was rushed to the hospital, where he
was treated for wounds to
his abdomen and groin.

In another part of the parking lot, shots hit a
Toyota 4Runner occupied by
Matt and Judy Purcell and their three daughters. Judy
Purcell, who was sitting
in the front passenger seat, suffered injuries to her
shoulder and face, and
her husband sped off for the hospital.

Bullets cut through the front fender of a Honda Accord,
but the woman behind the wheel wasn’t hurt.

Murray walked toward the church, according to numerous
witnesses, firing indiscriminately from his assault
rifle, blowing holes in the
glass doors on the east side of the main church
building before he entered.

Inside, in a hallway, Murray’s gunfire hit Larry
Bourbonnais, 59,
in the arm, just as he ducked behind a pillar.

At that same moment, church security officer Jeanne Assam
drew her 9 mm pistol and shouted “surrender” at Murray.

“Drop the gun,” she yelled. “Drop the gun,
or I will kill you.”

Needless to say, he is not very happy with
me. Not that I care.

I’ll continue to work to resolve
this issue and make students and visitors to CSU
safer. I’m working closely with Dudley Brown
from He is really going the extra mile
to help the
students at CSU. If you are not a member
of RMGO, you should be. The other gun
groups are good and work hard. RMGO is
the best; you can always count on them to side with
the Constitution, even if
it isn’t on a popular issue – no compromising on


Note: some spacing was edited for clarity, content un-changed.

Related is a response having to do with this issue from NRA/ILA:

Anti-Gun Lunacy Abounds On Colorado College Campuses
Friday, December 11, 2009
The carrying of firearms on college campuses remains hotly debated these days.  Recently, that debate has centered on two prominent Colorado universities.

Last week, the Colorado State University (CSU) Student Senate voted overwhelmingly (21-3) to continue allowing students with valid state-issued carry permits to carry concealed firearms on campus.  The local Sheriff endorsed the students’ decision.  But the nine-member CSU Board of Governors overruled the decision, voting on Friday to strike down the proposal.

A final decision by CSU President Dr. Anthony A. Frank on the proposal is expected soon.  In the meantime, Frank will review recommendations from both the student government and his public safety and cabinet members.

Former Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo (R) reportedly called the CSU decision “stupid.”  Tancredo has proposed a 2010 ballot measure that would ask voters to recommend to Colorado’s state officials that they oppose all forms of gun restrictions.  A December 7, 2009 State Bill Colorado article reports that Tancredo said the issue is about self-defense, stopping “horrendous” incidents and protecting the Second Amendment.

“Do you want to protect people, or do you want to be politically correct?  Which is your goal?” Tancredo asked.

“You do realize that there are about 300 million firearms in the United States in private hands.  If the opponents of concealed-carry and of private ownership of firearms were right, every city in the United States would be Beirut,” he said.

Tancredo went on to note that statistics indicate gun violence in the United States has been going down over the last decade, as gun ownership has been increasing.

Meanwhile, the University of Colorado (UC) also took up the issue of banning firearms on campus last week when they confirmed a ban on¾drum roll¾Nerf guns! Yes, Nerf guns.  You know, those toy guns that shoot soft spongy balls?  The ones kids play with in the family room?  Yes, those Nerf guns.

It seems that the game of “humans vs. zombies” has become a national craze on college campuses.  The game involves “zombie” students attempting to eliminate “human” students by pelting them with spongy Nerf balls or balled-up socks.  When campus security officials got wind of the game, they moved quickly to ban the Nerf guns.  Students using the play guns could be charged with violations of the student-conduct policy or even arrested on charges of unlawful conduct.

So, while Nerf guns may be safe to sell in “Kids R Us,” and safe for use by children in their home, apparently they are seen as enough of a grave danger for college students that UC has banned them.

“We told them that the violation of the weapons policy is a serious thing,” said CU spokesman Bronson Hilliard.  “If a third party happened upon this and called 911, we’d have to respond as if it were a real incident.”


RMGO Newsletter

December 5, 2009

CSU to ban self defense, Denver CCW Class Dec. 14th and Ft. Collins Jan. 11

Colorado State has been rattling it’s empty saber scabbard for years about a “No Firearms Policy”, but this week the (bad) idea reached a fevered pitch.

After the CSU Faculty Council (read: Liberal, freedom-hating professors) recommended to CSU President Tony Frank to ban firearms on campus, the student government quickly stood on the side of freedom and asked Frank to leave the policy as it is (i.e. permit holders, including students, can carry).

Then, Larimer County Sheriff Jim Alderden, himself first elected as sheriff solely due to the concealed carry issue (the previous RINO sheriff had refused to issue permits), publicly told CSU that his office (which controls the only jail in the county) would not enforce any ban on permit holders, wouldn’t participate in detaining any valid permit holders, and his jail would not hold them.  He also added that he didn’t think CSU had the legal authority to enforce a ban that is contrary to state law.

And, despite a barrage of letters and calls from State Legislators, citizens and CSU Alumni, the CSU Board of Governors today recommended to President Frank (who makes the final decision) to ban all firearms on campus.

Understand that there are a few different issues here:

1. Banning faculty and students, via employment contracts and student code of conduct contracts, is an end-run around the state policy, and may or may not be legal.

2. Banning all firearms on campus, even with a permit, is a much longer step.  And clearly, this is not legal, as Colorado law doesn’t allow that, and even a liberal judge (the Meyers decision in 2004) ruled that Denver couldn’t make it’s own concealed carry rules, despite being a “home rule” city.  How, then, could a taxpayer-funded public university?

Colorado University’s Board of Regents voted many years ago to make their campuses “gun free”, but CU’s Regents are constitutionally created, and elected.  CSU has nothing of the sort.  So unelected bureaucrats are making policy in direct and flagrant opposition to Colorado law.

Did the Colorado legislature, in 2003’s SB24, intend to have permit holders walk on campus armed?

As the only professional pro-gun lobbyist to endure the 9-year battle for “Shall Issue” concealed carry in Colorado, RMGO Executive Director Dudley Brown made it clear that this issue was addressed, routinely.

“This issue was addressed routinely, and though the NRA tried many times to include campus-carry bans, the legislature rejected it,” said Brown, a gun lobbyist for the last 16 years.  “The final bill, passed in 2003, explicitly allowed permit holders to carry on campus, but apparently some bureaucrats believe their students should be defenseless.”

“Virginia Tech, Columbine High School, and every gun free zone sends one message: it’s a Criminal Safezone, where citizens are defenseless,” Brown said.  “We’ll fight this ban in court, as it is clear that liberal academia isn’t going to stand for freedom.”

RMGO pushed CSU to recognize the right to carry in 2001, and has been on the leading edge of the issue ever since.

Concealed Carry Class to be held in Denver (Englewood, actually) on Dec. 14th, and Ft. Collins on Jan. 11th

Click on the registration link below to get signed up for these classes, but hurry; space is limited, and they fill up fast.

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Student leaders urge CSU president to keep concealed-carry policy on campus

December 4, 2009

Seems that the students agree with Senator Brophy on this one. They have no interest in becoming another Columbine via having a Free Fire Zone for a campus.

Student leaders at Colorado State University voted overwhelmingly Wednesday night in favor of a resolution asking school president Tony Frank to continue to allow people with concealed-weapon permits to go armed on campus.

“I feel students have a right to have a measure of self-defense on campus,” said sophomore Cooper Anderson, a student senator representing the College of Agriculture Sciences and a co-author of the resolution.

“It’s a fact that crime doesn’t stop at the university’s doorstep.”

He added the change departs from state law and university policy.


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