Posts Tagged ‘free fire zones’

Columbine Redux?: CSU mulls weapons ban

December 2, 2009

Several years ago the federal government passed the “Free Fire Zones” law that led to the many atrocities that have come to pass. The Columbine High School tragedy probably being the most infamous. Years before the atrocity I addressed the implications of such a law in a letter to the editor at the now defunct Rocky Mountain News. I further addressed the issue in a disaster plan that I took part in writing based upon the lessons learned while studying about such acts in Israel, and across the middle east as well as in other places around the world.

People didn’t listen back then, and the fruits of such Ostrich like behavior were payed for in the blood and lost lives of many innocents all over America, as well as the rest of the world. Those same deadly sentiments are again being espoused by those that should, by now, know better.

When water cooler politics become more important than lives then a hearty dose of logic and reason need to be administered. Sadly, for some reason, I don’t have faith in the people who will be making the decisions.

First, from the local newspaper we have:

Today, Colorado State University defaults to state law, which permits people with a concealed-carry permit to carry a handgun in most places on campus. Weapons are banned in residence halls.

At the prompting of the university’s faculty council, President Tony Frank is considering whether to enact a near-ban on concealed carrying in classrooms and other common areas.

The university’s public safety team and Frank’s cabinet both unanimously recommended such a ban in October, university spokesman Brad Bohlander said. The faculty council last year asked Frank to consider creating a weapons policy but didn’t suggest what it should be.

“The public safety team came down on the side of believing the potential risk of having more weapons in such densely populated areas is a greater risk,” Bohlander said. “They felt that greater access to weapons leads to greater potential risk on campus.”

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Then we have this from State Senator Brophy, used with permission see sidebar for a link to his website.

I thought you might like to see a letter that I am
sending
to Colorado State University. They are considering a
policy of banning
concealed carry on campus. I really
think that is a mistake.

Greg

December 1, 2009

To my friends at Colorado
State University,

As a former student of Colorado
State University,
it saddens me to see that my alma mater is
considering banning concealed carry
by law-abiding citizens on campus, which would
effectively take away their
right to self defense.

I was a member of the Colorado
legislature during the final debate on making
Colorado a “Shall Issue” concealed
carry state.

I remember how some in the House and Senate wailed
and moaned that Colorado would turn into
the Wild West, with shootouts happening everywhere
and blood running in the
streets. The same arguments echoed
throughout the chambers of legislatures around the
country when those states
decided to allow for greater freedom through more
relaxed concealed carry laws

In no place did we see increased shootings; on the
contrary, the
statistics are clear. States that allow
more citizens to carry concealed see a reduction in
crime rates.

I believe we’ll see the same at CSU.

Further, I’m convinced that criminals are emboldened
when they
know that an area is designated as a “no carry” “criminal
safe zone”.

The public nature of the discussion of this policy at
CSU will serve to
create an impression in the minds of criminals –
either the campus will be
wide open for them to prey on students and visitors
or it will be a dangerous
place for thugs to be thugs.

I respectfully urge you to resist this move to make
CSU into another Boulder and less safe.

Sincerely,

Greg Brophy

State Senator

CSU student, 1984-1988

It is my belief that Senator Greg Brophy needs to be elected to higher office.

Fort Hood: A Free fire zone, so much for gun control

November 10, 2009

Much has been written over the past few days about the Fort Hood incident. As usual, the Brady Bunch and others are calling for more gun control. As if weaponry on military bases are not already under strict control. Be that as it may my inbox has been filling up with various states of rage. I don’t really call it correspondence, after all, most up until now have been emotional venting ‘s. This includes some from people that are well educated, current and former military, and fellow emergency workers. Then, I opened up the mailbox this morning, and a friend had forwarded something that he had received first hand. This person is a trusted confidant, and for opsec reasons a few lines have been edited out to protect the source’s. So much for gun control…

H/T to Neil

This was sent to me supposedly from a 1st hand account from the friend of a friend. I believe it-you can choose to believe or disbelieve as you wish.

I thought you might find this interesting.

I received this from a friend today. The writer, a JAG (Lawyer) officer was
a first person participant in what took place at the Soldier Readiness
Center at Fort Hood on last Thursday. This is his personal
account of events. When you read this understand it was written after a very
long and very busy day. These are his words and phrasing.

> What happened.

Since I don’t know when I’ll sleep (it’s 4 am now) I’ll write what happened (the abbreviated version. the long one is already part of the investigation with more to come. I’ll not write about any part of the investigation that I’ve learned about since inevitably my JAG brothers and sisters are deeply involved in the investigation) .
>
Don’t assume that most of the current media accounts are very accurate.They’ re not. They’ll improve with time. Only those of us who were there really know what went down. But as they collate our statements they’ll get it right.
>
I did my SRP last week (Soldier Readiness Processing) but you’re supposed to come back a week later to have them look at the smallpox vaccination site (it’s this big itchy growth on your shoulder). I am probably alive because I pulled a ———- and entered the wrong building first (the main SRP building).
>
The Medical SRP building is off to the side. Realizing my mistake I left the main building and walked down the sidewalk to the medical SRP building.As I’m walking up to it the gunshots start. Slow and methodical. But continuous.
>
Two ambulatory wounded came out. Then two soldiers dragging a third who was covered in blood. Hearing the shots but not seeing the shooter, along with a couple other soldiers I stood in the street and yelled at everyone who came running that it was clear but to “RUN!” I kept motioning people fast.
>
About 6-10 minutes later (the shooting continuous), two cops ran up, one
male, one female. We pointed in the direction of the shots. They headed that way (the medical SRP building was about 50 meters away). Then a lot more gunfire. a couple minutes later a balding man in ACU’s came around the building carrying a pistol and holding it tactically.
>
He started shooting at us and we all dived back to the cars behind us. I don’t think he hit the couple other guys who were there. I did see the bullet holes later in the cars. First I went behind a tire and then looked under the body of the car. I’ve been trained how to respond to gunfire…but with my own weapon. To have no weapon I don’t know how to explain what that felt like. I hadn’t run away and stayed because I had thought about the consequences or anything like that. I wasn’t thinking anything through.
>
Please understand, there was no intention. I was just staying there because I didn’t think about running. It never occurred to me that he might shoot me. Until he started shooting in my direction and I realized I was unarmed.
>
Then the female cop comes around the corner. He shoots her. (according to the news account she got a round into him. I believe it, I just didn’t see it. He didn’t go down.) She goes down. He starts reloading. He’s fiddling with his mags. Weirdly he hasn’t dropped the one that was in his weapon. He’s holding the fresh one and the old one (you do that on the range when time is not of the essence but in combat you would just let the old mag go).
>
I see the male cop around the left corner of the building. (I’m about 15-20 meters from the shooter.) I yell at the cop, “He’s reloading, he’s reloading. Shoot him! Shoot him!) You have to understand, everything was quiet at this point. The cop appears to hear me and comes around the corner and shoots the shooter. He goes down. The cop kicks his weapon further away. I sprint up to the downed female cop. Another captain (I think he was with me behind the cars) comes up as well.

She’s bleeding profusely out of her thigh. We take our belts off and tourniquet her just like we’ve been trained (I hope we did it right…we didn’t have any CLS (combat lifesaver) bags with their awesome tourniquets on us, so we worked with what we had).
>
Meanwhile, in the most bizarre moment of the day, a photographer was standing over us taking pictures. I suppose I’ll be seeing those tomorrow. Then a soldier came up and identified himself as a medic. I then realized her weapon was lying there unsecured (and on “fire”). I stood over it and when I saw a cop yelled for him to come over and secure her weapon (I would have done so but I was worried someone would mistake me for a bad guy).
>
I then went over to the shooter. He was unconscious. A Lt Colonel was there and had secured his primary weapon for the time being. He also had a revolver. I couldn’t believe he was one of ours. I didn’t want to believe it. Then I saw his name and rank and realized this wasn’t just some specialist with mental issues. At this point there was a guy there from CID and I asked him if he knew he was the shooter and had him secured. He said he did.
>
I then went over the slaughter house. – the medical SRP building. No human should ever have to see what that looked like, and I won’t tell you. Just believe me. Please. there was nothing to be done there.
>
Someone then said there was someone critically wounded around the corner. I
ran around (while seeing this floor to ceiling window that someone had jumped through movie style) and saw a large African-American soldier lying on his back with two or three soldiers attending.
>
I ran up and identified two entrance wounds on the right side of his stomach, one exit wound on the left side and one head wound. He was not bleeding externally from the stomach wounds (though almost certainly internally) but was bleeding from the head wound. A soldier was using a shirt to try and stop the head bleeding. He was conscious so I began talking to him to keep him so. He was 42, from North Carolina, he was named something Jr., his son was named something III and he had a daughter as well. His children lived with him. He was divorced. I told him the blubber on his stomach saved his life. He smiled.
>
A young soldier in civvies showed up and identified himself as a combatmedic. We debated whether to put him on the back of a pickup truck. A doctor (well, an audiologist) showed up and said you can’t move him, he has a head wound. we finally sat tight.
>
I went back to the slaughterhouse. they weren’t let ting anyone in there. Not even medics. finally, after about 45 minutes had elapsed some cops showed up in tactical vests. someone said the TBI building was unsecured. They headed into there. All of a sudden a couple more shots were fired.People shouted there was a second shooter. A half hour later the SWAT showed up. there was no second shooter. that had been an impetuous cop apparently, but that confused things for a while.
>
Meanwhile I went back to the shooter. the female cop had been taken away.
A medic was pumping plasma into the shooter. I’m not proud of this but I went up to her and said “this is the shooter, is there anyone else who needs attention… do them first”. she indicated everyone else living was attended to. I still hadn’t seen any EMTs or ambulances.
>
I had so much blood on me that people kept asking me if I was ok. but that was all other people’s blood. Eventually (an hour and a half to two hours after the shootings) they started landing choppers. they took out the big African American guy and the shooter. I guess the ambulatory wounded were all at the SRP building. Everyone else in my area was dead.
>
I suppose the emergency responders were told there were multiple shooters. I heard that was the delay with the choppers (they were all civilian helicopters) . They needed a secure LZ. but other than the initial cops who did everything right, I didnt’ see a lot of them for a while.
>
I did see many a soldier rush out to help their fellows/sisters. There was one female soldier, I dont’ know her name or rank but I would recognize her anywhere, who was everywhere helping people. A couple people, mainly civilians, were hysterical, but only a couple. One civilian freaked out when I tried to comfort her when she saw my uniform. I guess she had seen the shooter up close.
>
A lot of soldiers were rushing out to help even when we thought there was another gunman out there. this Army is not broken no matter what the pundits say. Not the Army I saw.
>
Then they kept me for a long time to come. oh, and perhaps the most surreal
thing, at 1500 (the end of the workday on Thursdays) when the bugle sounded we all came to attention and saluted the flag. In the middle of it all.
>
This is what I saw. It can’t have been real. But this is my small corner of what happened.

Mumbai… Some people just never learn

December 3, 2008

Gun control simply turns areas into free fire zones; as has been noted on this blog since the beginning some two and a half years ago. I personally called them that ( places where guns are not allowed) years before John Lott, or anyone else made the phrase famous. I did that in letters to the editor, at public gatherings, and before State Senators and Representatives in the Colorado House. All to no avail. What was my degree of success? I can sum it up in one word; Columbine.

Mumbai India, heck, India in general is yet another place where this has been made so painfully obvious. As noted by another blogger in another part of the world, refusing to allow for effective defense only results in blood baths.

I have a question. When will Al Qaeda or another group filled with blood lust strike a place here in the United States in the manner that the terrorist did in India? I have a hint for their planning department. Choose a place like New York City or San Fransisco where the citizens are not allowed to properly and effectively defend themselves and their loved ones. Mayor Blooberg’s office should be avoided though. Seems that the Honorable Mayor has more than enough armed help on and around the premises. He is entitled to that, after all, his blood is more precious than that of a black baby in Harlem’s is. Perhaps the offices of The New York Post. They have been telling New Yorkers that they are to stupid to be allowed to own firearms for years. They prefer for rapist’s and others of that ilk to be armed rather than some young mother that actually has a need to be armed.



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