Posts Tagged ‘School Shootings’

Columbine Redux?: CSU mulls weapons ban

December 2, 2009

Several years ago the federal government passed the “Free Fire Zones” law that led to the many atrocities that have come to pass. The Columbine High School tragedy probably being the most infamous. Years before the atrocity I addressed the implications of such a law in a letter to the editor at the now defunct Rocky Mountain News. I further addressed the issue in a disaster plan that I took part in writing based upon the lessons learned while studying about such acts in Israel, and across the middle east as well as in other places around the world.

People didn’t listen back then, and the fruits of such Ostrich like behavior were payed for in the blood and lost lives of many innocents all over America, as well as the rest of the world. Those same deadly sentiments are again being espoused by those that should, by now, know better.

When water cooler politics become more important than lives then a hearty dose of logic and reason need to be administered. Sadly, for some reason, I don’t have faith in the people who will be making the decisions.

First, from the local newspaper we have:

Today, Colorado State University defaults to state law, which permits people with a concealed-carry permit to carry a handgun in most places on campus. Weapons are banned in residence halls.

At the prompting of the university’s faculty council, President Tony Frank is considering whether to enact a near-ban on concealed carrying in classrooms and other common areas.

The university’s public safety team and Frank’s cabinet both unanimously recommended such a ban in October, university spokesman Brad Bohlander said. The faculty council last year asked Frank to consider creating a weapons policy but didn’t suggest what it should be.

“The public safety team came down on the side of believing the potential risk of having more weapons in such densely populated areas is a greater risk,” Bohlander said. “They felt that greater access to weapons leads to greater potential risk on campus.”

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Then we have this from State Senator Brophy, used with permission see sidebar for a link to his website.

I thought you might like to see a letter that I am
sending
to Colorado State University. They are considering a
policy of banning
concealed carry on campus. I really
think that is a mistake.

Greg

December 1, 2009

To my friends at Colorado
State University,

As a former student of Colorado
State University,
it saddens me to see that my alma mater is
considering banning concealed carry
by law-abiding citizens on campus, which would
effectively take away their
right to self defense.

I was a member of the Colorado
legislature during the final debate on making
Colorado a “Shall Issue” concealed
carry state.

I remember how some in the House and Senate wailed
and moaned that Colorado would turn into
the Wild West, with shootouts happening everywhere
and blood running in the
streets. The same arguments echoed
throughout the chambers of legislatures around the
country when those states
decided to allow for greater freedom through more
relaxed concealed carry laws

In no place did we see increased shootings; on the
contrary, the
statistics are clear. States that allow
more citizens to carry concealed see a reduction in
crime rates.

I believe we’ll see the same at CSU.

Further, I’m convinced that criminals are emboldened
when they
know that an area is designated as a “no carry” “criminal
safe zone”.

The public nature of the discussion of this policy at
CSU will serve to
create an impression in the minds of criminals –
either the campus will be
wide open for them to prey on students and visitors
or it will be a dangerous
place for thugs to be thugs.

I respectfully urge you to resist this move to make
CSU into another Boulder and less safe.

Sincerely,

Greg Brophy

State Senator

CSU student, 1984-1988

It is my belief that Senator Greg Brophy needs to be elected to higher office.

Student Radicals!

June 1, 2009

Student radicals insisting on their rights is nothing new. The difference now being that the rights that are being discussed are rights actually spelled out in the Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

After the Columbine fiasco, as in the pathetic response to a couple of homicidal sociopaths there was a backlash against Constitutional liberty. That was pretty short sighted as well as the exact opposite of what should have been done. Many of us brought up the Israeli experience both before as well as immediately after the school was shot up, along with the bodies of people that were not only innocent of any wrong, but that trusted those in authority to make proper decisions in planning for, and implementing their safety.

Now, some ten years later, students are remembering the lessons taught them by those that are in fact knowledgeable about matters that involve life and death. Naturally, those that are “better then thou” in all things. Like politicians and social elitist’s are crying wolf, and at the same time feeding the innocent to the wolves…

Student unrest… The more that things change, the more they stay the same!

Gun-Free Zones Are Not Safe

April 23, 2008

Anyone that reads this blog on even an irregular basis knows that I have been preaching this for years. Yes, even before the Columbine High School incident. “Gun Free Zones” were properly called “Free Fire Zones” at several meetings before the laws were passed, I know, because I was the one making them. Still, it’s nice to have someone such as Dr. Lott confirm ones beliefs.

SOURCE: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352006,00.html

Americans’ fears over the safety of schools continues.

Last Monday, three colleges and four K-to-12 schools were shut down by threats of violence.

This week over 25,000 college students at 300 chapters in 44 states belong to a group, Students for Concealed Carry on College Campuses, that will carry empty handgun holsters to protest their concerns about not being able to defend themselves.

With the first anniversary of the Virginia Tech attack last week and the discussions that it created, we clearly have not been able to put that and other attacks behind us. There are good reasons why the safety measures adopted over the last year to speed up response times or hiring more police haven’t eliminated the fear people feel.

The attack earlier this year at Northern Illinois University proved that even six minutes was too long. It took six minutes before the police were able to enter the classroom, and in that short time five people were murdered. Compared to the Virginia Tech and other attacks, six minutes is actually record breaking speed, but it was simply not fast enough.

The Thursday before the NIU murders five people were killed in a city council chambers in Kirkwood, Mo. There was even a police officer already there when the attack occurred. But as happens time after time in these attacks, when uniformed police are there, the killers either wait for the police to leave the area or they are the first people killed. In Kirkwood, the police officer was killed immediately when the attack started. People cowered or were reduced to futilely throwing chairs at the killer.

There is a problem that people just are unwilling to recognize.

Just like attacks last year at the Westroads Mall in Omaha, Neb., or Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City or the recent attack at the Tinley Park Mall in Illinois or all the public schools attacks, all these cases had one thing in common: They took place in “gun free zones,” where private citizens were not allowed to carry their guns with them.

The malls in Omaha and Salt Lake City were in states that let people carry concealed handguns, but private property owners are allowed to post signs banning guns and those malls were among the few places in their states that chose to post such signs. In the Trolley Square attack an off-duty police officer fortunately violated the ban and stopped the attack. The attacks at Virginia Tech or the other public schools occured in some of the few areas within their states that people are not allowed to carry concealed handguns.

It is not just recent killings that are occurring in these gun-free zones. Multiple-victim public shootings keep on occurring in places where guns are banned. Nor are these horrible incidents limited to just gun-free zones in the US.

In 1996 Martin Bryant killed 35 people at Port Arthur in Tasmania, Australia. In the last half-dozen years, European countries including France, Germany and Switzerland have experienced multiple-victim shootings. The worst school attack in Germany claimed 17 deaths, another 14 deaths; one attack in Switzerland claimed the lives of 14 regional legislators.

At some point you would think that something is going on here, that these murderers aren’t just picking their targets at random. Yet, when one thinks about it, this pattern isn’t really too surprising.

Most people understand that guns deter criminals. The problem is that instead of gun-free zones making it safe for potential victims, they make it safe for criminals.

Criminals are less likely to run into those who might be able to stop them. Everyone wants to keep guns away from criminals, but the problem is who is more likely to obey the law.

A student expelled for violating a gun-free zone at a college is extremely unlikely ever to get into another college. A faculty member fired for a firearms violation will find it virtually impossible to get another academic position. But even if the killer at Virginia Tech had lived, the notion that the threat of expulsion would have deterred the attacker when he would have already faced 32 death penalties or at least 32 life sentences seems silly.

Letting civilians have permitted concealed handguns limits the damage from attacks. A major factor in determining how many people are harmed by these killers is the amount of time that elapses between when the attack starts and when someone with a gun is able to arrive on the scene.

In cases from the church shooting in Colorado Springs, Colo., last December, where a parishioner who was given permission by the minister to carry her concealed gun into the church quickly stopped the murderer, to an attack last year in downtown Memphis, to the Appalachian Law School, to high schools in such places as Pearl, Miss., concealed handgun permit holders have stopped attacks well before uniformed police could possibly have arrived.

Twice this year armed Israeli citizens have stopped terrorist attacks at schools (once by an armed teacher and another by an armed student). Indeed, despite the fears being discussed about the risks of concealed handgun permit holders, I haven’t found one multiple-victim public shooting where a permit holder has accidentally shot a bystander.

With about 5 million Americans currently with concealed handgun permits in the U.S. and states starting having right-to-carry laws for as long as 80 years, we have a lot of experience with these laws, and one thing is very clear: Concealed handgun permit holders are extremely law-abiding and lose their permits for any gun-related violation at hundredths or thousandths of one percentage point. We also have a lot of experience with permitted concealed handguns in schools.

Prior to the 1995 Safe School Zone Act, states with right-to-carry laws let teachers or others carry concealed handguns at school, and several states still allow this today. And there is not a single instance that I or others have found where this produced a single problem. There are today even some universities, including large public universities such as Colorado State University and the University of Utah, that let students carry concealed handguns on school property.

With all the news media coverage of the types of guns used and how the criminal obtained the gun, at some point the news media might begin to mention the one common feature of these attacks: they keep occurring in gun-free zones.

Gun-free zones are a magnet for these attacks. But, even without the media, considering that 15 more states this year debated legislation to let concealed handguns on school campuses, possibly the issue is becoming clear anyway.

John Lott is the author of Freedomnomics and a senior research scientist at the University of Maryland.