Posts Tagged ‘torture’

Sobering intelligence claims against many of the detainees?

November 7, 2008

While reading the Friday Patriot post I came across this entry having to do with those traitors over at a place called the New York Times.That’s right, the people that like leaking classified material that gets Americans killed. Now that their Crowned Prince is going to have to actually do something other than rant about change they seem to have remembered civic responsibility. Too little, and way to late is the phrase that comes to my mind.

Read All About It! New York Times Gets Religion! — After six years of leading the charge in slandering the Bush administration as torturers, after equating Guantanamo Bay to a modern-day Buchenwald, after bemoaning that the detainees in Gitmo didn’t have access to all the rights and privileges of a defendant in civil court, the Times suddenly realized that there just might be some very dangerous people in Gitmo. Now the Times’ Chosen One is president-elect, and come January, he will face all these problems and more. Suddenly, it’s “sobering intelligence claims against many of the detainees” and “tough choices in deciding how many of Guantanamo’s hard cases should be sent home.” Indeed. How far the erstwhile “Newspaper of Record” has fallen — it took them six long years to admit this basic truth. And they wonder why their readership is drying up.

Guantanamo Bay is just the tip of the iceberg of serious national security issues that Barack Obama will find staring at him starting in January. The day he takes office, all his pandering remarks over the last two years that were aimed at placating the moonbats will collide with the fact that he and he alone is ultimately responsible for the safety of the United States. Will he close down Gitmo and throw the detainees into ordinary courts for processing? The case of Zacarias Moussaoui might give him pause — it took four and a half years from indictment to verdict in the Moussaoui case, and Moussaoui pled guilty. Will he continue the practice of intercepting foreign signals that are routed through the United States — which the Times has steadfastly insisted on calling “warrantless wiretapping?” Time will tell. We suspect that the Times, just as it is now trying to brush all their previous slander under the rug, will lead the mainstream media in throwing many of Senator Obama’s past statements down the memory hole, sparing him the scorn they heaped so gleefully on President George W. Bush as he was preventing further attacks on U.S. soil over the last seven years.

Canadian terror suspect …

May 18, 2008

This story is a bit stale, but i thought that it still might be of interest to many. This citizen of an allied nation has been linked to international terrorism, and a bounty was offered for his capture. Allegedly, he was tortured by a secondary nation. Seems a lot of people are upset at that possible turn of events. At the same time, by implication, they are not upset with his apparent activities. I also would want to know just what they are calling “torture.” A mind trick, like water boarding perhaps? Burning bamboo shoots beneath the fingernails? Or perhaps the Che Guevara special, a twelve volt battery applied to various parts of the anatomy of a person hanging by the wrists that has been doused in saline solution? What about the people that he harmed. Is this some sort of justice for them? Then, the story perpetuates the myth that aggressive interrogation methods are not trustworthy in spite of recent discoveries. All intelligence gained from any methodology needs to be vetted no matter the source, and no system or method is one hundred percent perfect.

All that is moot in my mind though if this guy is a terrorist. For those on the left that love these types of people, like Osama bin Laden  and Che Guevara I say too bad. I have seen terrorism first hand, from the Viet Cong disemboweling village headmen and their wives before their families and villagers, to the PFLP gaining Allah’s blessing by killing children they all have one thing in common. That being that the only thing that they truly respect is brutal, and blunt force. If that is what it takes to achieve victory in this war with “The religion of peace” then so be it.

OTTAWA (AFP) — A US intelligence agency paid a 500,000-dollar bounty to Pakistan’s military for the arrest of the Canadian son of a suspected Al-Qaeda financier, said court documents.

According to an October 2004 memo to the head of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) ordered released by Canada’s federal court, Abdullah Khadr was wanted for “supporting insurgent activity in Pakistan and Afghanistan.”

Thus, Khadr “is deemed to be a national security threat and has a 500,000 US dollar outstanding bounty for his capture,” said the memo published on the website of the daily Globe and Mail, which fought for its disclosure.

Khadr is the eldest son of Egyptian-born

Canadian national Ahmed Said Khadr, and the brother of Omar Khadr, the only Canadian held at the US naval base in Guantanamo, Cuba.

He was held in Pakistan for almost a year before returning in 2005 to Canada, where he was arrested and jailed, and is now fighting extradition to the United States.

Justice officials inadvertantly disclosed the top secret memo in court filings last year and fought the Globe and Mail not to publish it, but lost.

Federal Court Judge Richard said in his decision: “The fact that a foreign state paid a bounty for the apprehension of a Canadian citizen abroad and that Canadian officials were aware of it … is a matter in which the public would have a legitimate interest.”

“The evidence heard in camera supports the conclusion that the bounty was offered and paid by the United States,” he added.

Khadr’s lawyers maintain that their client was tortured while in Pakistan and his statements to US, Canadian and Pakistani agents are therefore tainted. Khadr attorney Nathan Whitling told the Globe and Mail that Washington was guilty of “outsourcing torture.”

“Rather than getting its own hands dirty, the US simply paid the Musharraf regime 500,000 dollars to arrest Mr Khadr, knowing full well what Pakistan would do to him.

“The US then did all it could to hide this secret arrangement from the Canadian judge hearing Mr Khadr’s case,” Whitling charged.

The RMCP memo says Khadr was also a “primary target” of Canada’s anti-terrorism squad “for his role with (Al-Qaeda) training camps.”

As well, it says Khadr “is deemed to be a great intelligence asset due to his close relationship” with Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and other members of the terror network.

Khadr’s brother Abdurahman Khadr has admitted on Canadian television that the family knew bin Laden, and that Al-Qaeda operatives trained him and some of his siblings in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, his brother Omar Khadr faces an upcoming US military tribunal on charges that he murdered a US army medic in Afghanistan in 2002 when he was 15 years old.

Omar Khadr was arrested the same year and has since been held at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The court documents also include a transcript of an RCMP interview in which Khadr says he is not a member of Al-Qaeda, but adds, “I only buy and sell weapons for Al-Qaeda.”

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